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    Quote Originally Posted by Ike Kelly View Post
    All youíve made is changes to the original bet, which YOU asked Coolie to give the terms, then backed away until you changed the terms to fit your liking.

    I asked to you to name the last Heisman winner who missed more than 2 games in that season. As usual you avoid questions that merit your accountability.


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    The wager has little to do with the Heisman trophy Einstein.

    Its will Oliver be a top ten pick. History says no, and he might not even be the best DT in the 2019 draft.

    Coolie knows he won't so keep backing down. I'm giving him a reason to hype is the guy.

    A month ban is worse than a month read-only ban, so I'm risking more.

    So I'll guess say I told him so at a later date but will offer you my terms if you want to step up for him. So if you think he's correct, go for it, Ike
    Tomlin is 3-5 in his last eight playoff games, 3-6 if you include the Super Bowl loss to the Packers. He has won a playoff game in just 4 of his 11 seasons, and most of those came early.

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    The wager has little to do with the Heisman trophy Einstein.

    Its will Oliver be a top ten pick. History says no, and he might not even be the best DT in the 2019 draft.

    Coolie knows he won't so keep backing down. I'm giving him a reason to hype is the guy.

    A month ban is worse than a month read-only ban, so I'm risking more.

    So I'll guess say I told him so at a later date but will offer you my terms if you want to step up for him. So if you think he's correct, go for it, Ike
    You donít think so? Letís see genius, what started the whole conversation? Hereís a hint, the title of the thread.

    It matriculated from about Oliver being a Heisman winner, to being a top 10 pick in the draft. You say no to both. Coolie called you on it and on the draft gave you the terms. You have constantly tried to change the parameters that Coolie set.

    My question to you was to see if you even knew anything about the topic. You donít. Just like everything else you post, you have no validity, just your opinion.

    Such the torque wad......


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach View Post
    The wager has little to do with the Heisman trophy Einstein.

    Its will Oliver be a top ten pick. History says no, and he might not even be the best DT in the 2019 draft.

    Coolie knows he won't so keep backing down. I'm giving him a reason to hype is the guy.

    A month ban is worse than a month read-only ban, so I'm risking more.

    So I'll guess say I told him so at a later date but will offer you my terms if you want to step up for him. So if you think he's correct, go for it, Ike
    I never backed down...you asked for terms and I gave them...YOU kept changing them....I did agree to your last edit so we have a bet. (see post #58)
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    as for being the best DT in the draft next year.. winning the Outland Trophy shows he was the best last year so someone is going to have to overtake him in 2018

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    no backing out now coach that ass is locked in

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    Quote Originally Posted by slashsteel View Post
    no backing out now coach that ass is locked in

    I gave him very lenient terms and the better reward. He's not backing his guy for the top 10. What else can you say except he knows better :)
    Tomlin is 3-5 in his last eight playoff games, 3-6 if you include the Super Bowl loss to the Packers. He has won a playoff game in just 4 of his 11 seasons, and most of those came early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach View Post
    I gave him very lenient terms and the better reward. He's not backing his guy for the top 10. What else can you say except he knows better :)
    Please review the thread I have accepted.

    I'll make it easy...read post 58 and then 63...fucktard
    Last edited by CoolieMan; 03-17-2018 at 05:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slashsteel View Post
    no backing out now coach that ass is locked in

    what are the odds he will come back again trying to say I haven't accepted his terms.....

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    what are the odds he will come back again trying to say I haven't accepted his terms.....
    No matter we bare witness, the bet is cocked locked and barrel. But I could see him trying to weasel his way out. I wonder how many in depth draft mini clips he will watch with his time off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slashsteel View Post
    no backing out now coach that ass is locked in

    Uh oh

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    https://n.rivals.com/news/take-two-h...019-nfl-draft-

    THE STORYLINE
    When Houston opened spring practice earlier this month, star defensive tackle Ed Oliver made an unusual announcement that this upcoming season would be his last with the Cougars and he would be declaring for the NFL Draft.

    It was hardly a surprising move, since Oliver could contend for the No. 1 pick overall - he has been that special at Houston - but the timing was strange, making that statement even before his junior season starts and way before many people even consider the 2019 Draft.

    Defensive tackle is expected to be a premium position in next year’s NFL Draft, and Oliver will hardly be the only underclassman declaring early. Michigan’s Rashan Gary, Clemson’s Dexter Lawrence, Auburn’s Derrick Brown and others should be top picks.


    “His freshman year against Oklahoma, I saw him split a double team and sack Baker Mayfield in one of his first handful of plays fresh out of high school. An 18-year-old kid making plays on the big stage. At that moment I was like, ‘Yeah, this kid is for real.’

    "The play that I keep seeing in my head that tells me everything you need to know about Oliver was the first game of last season against Arizona. Houston flushed Arizona quarterback Brandon Dawkins out of the pocket and the speedster took off up the middle for what looked like was going to be a 30-yard gain and a fresh set of downs for the Wildcats. Then, out of nowhere, comes 290-pound defensive tackle Ed Oliver 30 yards downfield taking down Dawkins from behind and knocking the ball loose and into the hands of another Houston defender. That play right there just about clinched it for me. This kid is special. Barring any kind of major injury, I fully expect him to be a top five pick next April.
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    excellent article by a brilliant writer

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ootball-season

    1. Ed Oliver, Houston
    11 OF 11

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    Sophomore Year Results

    It's amazing what Ed Oliver has been able to accomplish while serving as the clear-cut primary threat in Houston's defense. This elite DT led the Cougars in tackles for loss (16.5) and sacks (5.5) while accumulating 73 total tackles. For good measure, he also had a one-yard rushing touchdown in the Hawaii Bowl against Fresno State.



    Junior Year Outlook

    If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Oliver will remain the focal point of opposing offenses, and he will continue shedding double-teams to break up plays in the backfield. In what figures to be the year of the defensive lineman, Oliver should at least sneak on to the fringe of the Heisman conversation as the best of that bunch.



    NFL Potential

    Oliver has already unofficially declared for the 2019 NFL draft, and he should be at the top of every draft board heading into next April. Given what he has done without much of a supporting cast at Houston, front offices will be chomping at the bit to pair this game-changing athlete with quality defensive ends and linebackers. He could be the best DT since Warren Sapp.

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    Todd McShay is brilliant

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-no-1-to-bills

    One week after the 2018 NFL draft, ESPN's Todd McShay released his first 2019 NFL mock draft on Thursday, featuring Houston defensive tackle Ed Oliver going No. 1 overall to the Buffalo Bills.

    The draft order used by McShay in his mock was based on Football Outsiders' 2018 projections.

    McShay called Oliver a "force" and said he was "immensely talented" on the heels of two productive seasons with the Cougars.

    In 2017, Oliver registered 73 tackles, 16.5 tackles for loss, 5.5 sacks and two forced fumbles. That came on the heels of a freshman campaign that saw him finish with 65 tackles, 22.0 tackles for loss, 5.0 sacks and two forced fumbles.


    If Oliver goes No. 1 overall in the 2019 draft, he will join a small group of defensive tackles who have done so.

    Only Russell Maryland, Steve Emtman and Dan Wilkinson have gone No. 1 overall at that position, and it hasn't occurred since 1994.

    Teams have seemingly steered clear of defensive tackles with the top pick since Maryland, Emtman and Wilkinson combined for just one Pro Bowl nod between them.

    Oliver is a special talent, however, and he would join an already impressive Bills defense that helped lead Buffalo to the playoffs in 2017.

    Since the Bills have major question marks at quarterback between AJ McCarron and rookie Josh Allen, a significant regression is possible.

    Defensive tackle is an area of relative strength for the Bills with veteran Kyle Williams, free-agent signing Star Lotulelei, 2016 third-round pick Adolphus Washington and 2018 third-round pick Harrison Phillips in the fold.

    With Williams likely nearing the end of his career, though, Buffalo could potentially benefit from another top-tier talent at the position.

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    Todd McShay is brilliant

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-no-1-to-bills

    One week after the 2018 NFL draft, ESPN's Todd McShay released his first 2019 NFL mock draft on Thursday, featuring Houston defensive tackle Ed Oliver going No. 1 overall to the Buffalo Bills.

    The draft order used by McShay in his mock was based on Football Outsiders' 2018 projections.

    McShay called Oliver a "force" and said he was "immensely talented" on the heels of two productive seasons with the Cougars.

    In 2017, Oliver registered 73 tackles, 16.5 tackles for loss, 5.5 sacks and two forced fumbles. That came on the heels of a freshman campaign that saw him finish with 65 tackles, 22.0 tackles for loss, 5.0 sacks and two forced fumbles.


    If Oliver goes No. 1 overall in the 2019 draft, he will join a small group of defensive tackles who have done so.

    Only Russell Maryland, Steve Emtman and Dan Wilkinson have gone No. 1 overall at that position, and it hasn't occurred since 1994.

    Teams have seemingly steered clear of defensive tackles with the top pick since Maryland, Emtman and Wilkinson combined for just one Pro Bowl nod between them.

    Oliver is a special talent, however, and he would join an already impressive Bills defense that helped lead Buffalo to the playoffs in 2017.

    Since the Bills have major question marks at quarterback between AJ McCarron and rookie Josh Allen, a significant regression is possible.

    Defensive tackle is an area of relative strength for the Bills with veteran Kyle Williams, free-agent signing Star Lotulelei, 2016 third-round pick Adolphus Washington and 2018 third-round pick Harrison Phillips in the fold.

    With Williams likely nearing the end of his career, though, Buffalo could potentially benefit from another top-tier talent at the position.
    yeah I was reading that the other day. Was thinking that he could fight the Bosa brother for that number one spot. Both should be solid pros.
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    What would it cost the STEELERS to move from 32 to first overall.............. Could we trade BELL?????

    Seriously, that is the sad part of always picking at the bottom end. You never get shots at the easy, no risk player such as Oliver or this year's Barckley. Don't get me wrong because I like the fact we are always picking lower end of round. It's just these guys will go to some douche bag team that may never contend. Obviously Cleveland add in Buffalo, Cincinnatti, San Diego, Jets. When is the last time PITTSBURGH picked before 15th???

    Oliver will be A STUD and if he stays healthy may very well win the Heisman, I sure hope so.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Drink IRON City View Post
    What would it cost the STEELERS to move from 32 to first overall.............. Could we trade BELL?????

    Seriously, that is the sad part of always picking at the bottom end. You never get shots at the easy, no risk player such as Oliver or this year's Barckley. Don't get me wrong because I like the fact we are always picking lower end of round. It's just these guys will go to some douche bag team that may never contend. Obviously Cleveland add in Buffalo, Cincinnatti, San Diego, Jets. When is the last time PITTSBURGH picked before 15th???

    Oliver will be A STUD and if he stays healthy may very well win the Heisman, I sure hope so.


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    I think if we trade Bell and throw in Fu and a 4th rounder...he could be ours

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    Little something I stumbled across Coolie, enjoy.

    https://twitter.com/footwork_king1/s...24855166341120
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    yeah those videos pop up on twitter now and then...he is really quick for such a big guy

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    I truely want this kid Oliver to succeed and take home a trophy Heisman to boot. I always root for an underdog but truthfully Mr. Oliver isn't an "underdog" as he is right in the mix of the best "D" player in college football,.....and NOT the pussy soccer football kind.



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