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Thread: And it Begins:Special Prosecutor To Investigate Trump And Russia

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    Malcolm Nance has been the steadiest, calmest, most enlightened commentator on this issue, two-years running. Never wavered, never once took a misstep. His two books on Trump/Russia are well worth reading. Today, as always, he cuts right to the point.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tibs View Post
    Malcolm Nance has been the steadiest, calmest, most enlightened commentator on this issue, two-years running. Never wavered, never once took a misstep. His two books on Trump/Russia are well worth reading. Today, as always, he cuts right to the point.


    From Wikidedia..............MSNBC doesn't have a reputation for hosting the brightest bulbs. Seems like everyone is a Russian agent to him.

    On August 20, 2016, Nance told MSNBC viewers that Green Party's presidential nominee Jill Stein "has a show on Russia Today."[20] Glenn Greenwald later wrote: "there is no disputing the fact that Nance’s statement was a falsehood, a fabrication, a lie. Stein did not have a show on RT, nor did she ever host a show on RT."[21] Nance also accused Greenwald of being "an agent of Moscow" and "deep in the Kremlin pocket." He also stated that Greenwald "helped Snowden defect" and "reports into [his] masters in Moscow." Greenwald accused Nance of lying.[21]
    You lost. Get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tibs View Post
    Malcolm Nance has been the steadiest, calmest, most enlightened commentator on this issue, two-years running.
    Anyone else think this line sounds familiar?

    Oh waitttttttttt.........I remember...

    Tibs used these words to describe His Higness the Porn Lawyer Avenatti this way. And called him an American Patriot. I think he used the same or similar adjectives to talk about Stormy Daniels. And Cohen. And James Comey (after months before he had trashed James Comey).

    This shit is pure entertainment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tibs View Post
    Good to know at least a few journalists at FoxNews are finally covering this investigation in a legitimate manner. Here they're discussing last week's bombshell discovery, that Trump's campaign chief Paul Manfort literally handed over confidential polling data to Russian operatives.

    Tibs, allow me to make a recommendation. If you want to know what is happening in Washington, you want a Washington insider, and legal mind..............and not some New York TV judge. May I suggest Joe Digenova.

    You lost. Get over it.

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    So the media, FBI, and everyone but Trump is lying or corrupt. Do some of you realize how ridiculous that narrative is? If Trump was a Dem people on here would be calling for a public execution. I don't know if Trump is smart enough to pull off the Russian collusion, but the people around him may be. I honestly don't think Trump will go down, but i could definitely see Jared and Don Jr going down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jitter77 View Post
    So the media, FBI, and everyone but Trump is lying or corrupt. Do some of you realize how ridiculous that narrative is? If Trump was a Dem people on here would be calling for a public execution. I don't know if Trump is smart enough to pull off the Russian collusion, but the people around him may be. I honestly don't think Trump will go down, but i could definitely see Jared and Don Jr going down.
    Lying about what? Have you seen evidence that Trump, Jared or Don Jr. committed a crime? What crime? Have you seen evidence that anyone colluded with Russia to influence the election?

    The big "bombshell" is that the FBI was investigating Trump. Which means what exactly? Have they found anything? What do you make of the fact that no one who's been indicted or pled guilty has had a word to say about conspiring with Russia to infuence the election (except to completely deny it?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jitter77 View Post
    So the media, FBI, and everyone but Trump is lying or corrupt. Do some of you realize how ridiculous that narrative is? If Trump was a Dem people on here would be calling for a public execution. I don't know if Trump is smart enough to pull off the Russian collusion, but the people around him may be. I honestly don't think Trump will go down, but i could definitely see Jared and Don Jr going down.
    Tibs will be along shortly to stroke your ego.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jitter77 View Post
    So the media, FBI, and everyone but Trump is lying or corrupt. Do some of you realize how ridiculous that narrative is? If Trump was a Dem people on here would be calling for a public execution. I don't know if Trump is smart enough to pull off the Russian collusion, but the people around him may be. I honestly don't think Trump will go down, but i could definitely see Jared and Don Jr going down.
    Yep he is guilty.

    GUILTY OF WINNING THE ELECTION.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jitter77 View Post
    So the media, FBI, and everyone but Trump is lying or corrupt. Do some of you realize how ridiculous that narrative is?
    The media always lies, and is biased.. The FBI under Comey was corrupt. Just look at how many top FBI officials have been fired, resigned, or criminally investigated. If the DOJ grows balls under Barr, the shit will hit the fan.

    Open your eyes. Turn off MSNBC. It is rotting your brain.
    You lost. Get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jitter77 View Post
    So the media, FBI, and everyone but Trump is lying or corrupt. Do some of you realize how ridiculous that narrative is? If Trump was a Dem people on here would be calling for a public execution. I don't know if Trump is smart enough to pull off the Russian collusion, but the people around him may be. I honestly don't think Trump will go down, but i could definitely see Jared and Don Jr going down.
    I suggest you go back and watch Dan Bongino's video, or read his book, about the plan that was put into place to go after Trump. How the Obama administration broke all the rules to obtain the FISA warrants, and how one political party used these warrants to spy on Trump. The lies and the coordination it took. The FBI involvement in it, how they were complicit.

    Then ask yourself your question again about who's lying and can they all coordinate and lie together.

    It's happened. It did happen. Yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamster View Post
    The media always lies, and is biased.. The FBI under Comey was corrupt. Just look at how many top FBI officials have been fired, resigned, or criminally investigated. If the DOJ grows balls under Barr, the shit will hit the fan.

    Open your eyes. Turn off MSNBC. It is rotting your brain.
    sure the media is biased, but not to the level people think. How many people involved with the white house have been fired, resigned, under investigation etc etc....I have never watched msnbc. When i talk about trump lying it is from his own words. He could say pigs can fly believe me over day, then the next day say "i never said that, and people would believe him. it is some kinda strange and sad phenomenon

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    Quote Originally Posted by jitter77 View Post
    sure the media is biased, but not to the level people think.
    Oh it's beyond the level we think. 90% of the media is registered Democrats. Follow MRC to see how biased the media is. Look at the Washington Post putting 20 reporters on digging up dirt during the election on Trump and exactly none on digging up dirt on Hillary. Look at the fake news stories CNN has had to retract. The lies. Finally look at Jill Abramson, who ran the vaunted NY Times for years, state publicly that the media "IS" the opposition party, that they are in the pocket of Liberals, that they intentionally ran opinionated headlines, and that they made it a point to go after Trump.

    Not sure how much more evidence that you need that the media is extremely biased.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jitter77 View Post
    it is some kinda strange and sad phenomenon
    The sad and strange phenomenon is that people still think the media isn’t all that biased. The media doesn’t deny it, not sure why anyone else does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jitter77 View Post
    sure the media is biased, but not to the level people think. \
    Read this, and tell me it is not to that level.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...liberal-press/
    You lost. Get over it.

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    Trump makes it too easy for the media with his comments, false facts, childish behavior etc etc. If Trump acted like a professional adult the media wouldn't have half the talking points it has now. Also people see Fox news as the gospel, but it is the same thing as CNN from the other side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jitter77 View Post
    Trump makes it too easy for the media with his comments, false facts, childish behavior etc etc. If Trump acted like a professional adult the media wouldn't have half the talking points it has now. Also people see Fox news as the gospel, but it is the same thing as CNN from the other side.
    Trump's ridiculous behavior is a completely separate issue from whether or not he colluded with Russia to influence the election.

    And I don't know anyone who sees Fox News as gospel. That's a typical liberal talking point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jitter77 View Post
    Trump makes it too easy for the media with his comments, false facts, childish behavior etc etc. I.
    I keep hearing that, but he keeps his campaign promises. Go figure. Fuck the media. No one cares.
    You lost. Get over it.

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    While I can agree Trump feeds into the media's feeding frenzy, I don't know how anyone can deny the outright media dishonesty. No, not all of it is false. That said, they embellish, assume and present assumptions as facts. A lot.

    I don't know what Trump did or didn't do. I don't know if he is innocent or guilty of the shit the media goes on breathlessly about on a daily basis. I am waiting for the facts. I am not sure I will ever get them.

    Read this article. Bias absolutely exists, especially at CNN. Media outlets like this are the enemy of the people based on their bias and dishonesty. If they stuck to the facts and were fair and impartial across the board, there could be no accusations of fake news. But they refused a story that they asked for because it didn't hammer the president. Journalism is dead. This simply proves it. People should demand better. Too bad they just want confirmation of their own bias.

    https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...ring-narrative
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    But they refused a story that they asked for because it didn't hammer the president. Journalism is dead. This simply proves it. People should demand better. Too bad they just want confirmation of their own bias.
    KUSI is in my backyard and a lot of reasonable people here in San Diego are disgusted with how that went down. CNN will just never recover, ever. My co-worker/friend has family in the Border Patrol, friends & others who are, and they deal with this issue on a daily basis. While they know border security is more than just a physical barrier, they see it absolutely work and it helps them focus on other things. They could probably articulate why & all the ins & outs much better than I, but I think I'll take their word for it.

    Even NPR went down to the border recently and they came away understanding these agents' perspective and actually wrote a great, seemingly unbiased article on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jitter77 View Post
    Trump makes it too easy for the media with his comments, false facts, childish behavior etc etc. If Trump acted like a professional adult the media wouldn't have half the talking points it has now. Also people see Fox news as the gospel, but it is the same thing as CNN from the other side.
    What did Ronald Reagan, George HW Bush, George W Busha and Mitt Rnmey say that was outlandish and made them targets? Because the media made them all out to be right wing extremists to try and scare people away just they do with Trump. You really haven't noticed the pattern yet? That seems impossible to me. The only reason it's intensified for Trump is because he has the balls to fight back against them and call them out for their bullshit tactics.
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